What worries me about Obama's policies?

[JAE]

Yes, back to the Obama abortion issue, seems how the debates aren't brining it up.

http://townhall.com/columnists/TerenceJeffrey/2008/10/08/the_obama_debate_every_american_should_see

 

[chefmeg]

I agree JAE that the fundamental diffs need to be explained~I just dont seem to be able to get past the terrible choices in 'friends' Obama has made...if McCain were the one who announced his run for Senate from Eric Rudolphs home, he would have never made the ticket and wouldn't be heard from again. It totally pisses me off about the double standards in this election.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I think those issues are important, but I think the fundamental differences between the two candidates needs to be explained. Those of us who already have a certainty of who we are going to vote for and why aren't going to have our minds changed. The fundamental differences need to be listed and explained for those who aren't sure of their choice. For example: Obama likes big government. McCain likes small government. Obama wants a redistribution of wealth and entitlement programs. McCain wants capitalism and personal responsibility. There are many more issues that both candidates disagree on. And, it's not just the presidential election where these explanations need to happen. Not everyone thinks for themselves, unfortunately, and the issues need to be laid out, step by step.

Government has grown a great deal in the last 8 years and especially in the last few weeks and now McCain wants it to grow more buy buying mortgages that we thought were just bought in the bail out. Obama wants the people who work to get something for their labor and for the richest to be accountable to share instead of continuing their greed. Obama wants personal responsibility too.

We help people all over the world but if we talk about helping our own people we are labeled socialists. It's a sin that there are people in our country dying or going into bankruptcy because they don't have health care. Under Obama's plan people will be able to see a doctor when they need it and it will stop some of the ER bottleneck. Hospitals will get paid for their services which will get all of us better care.

I agree that issues need to be laid out clearly and in a way everyone can understand. What I don't understand is how you otherwise intelligent people can buy into all the slime and slander. The McCain campaign is desperate and now they're throwing all the crap out there that has already been sifted through and found to be not worthy of attention. If you have to go there then, what about, for instance, McCain's involvement in the Keating Five (goes to his judgement) and the things that his running mate has in her past - her pastor, troopergate... Neither side is perfect but I can't support closemindedness and slime and slander.

If the issues were even on the table McCain would be talking them - his own campain SAID that they lose if they talk issues so they need to turn the page to scare people away from Obama. SHEESH.

 

[JAE]

Hot Air » Blog Archive » CNN: Obama’s lying about William Ayers

 

[janetupnorth]

I'm not even going to respond to that personally except to say that if I said the same thing I'd be chastised. I have seen just as much slime and slander from the other side they are just more sneaky at times.The morning news spin was ridiculous...can't wait until the election is over. I may not be happy with the results but I know that God is still in control of my life!

 

[JAE]

I'm not even going to respond to that personally except to say that if I said the same thing I'd be chastised. I have seen just as much slime and slander from the other side they are just more sneaky at times.The morning news spin was ridiculous...can't wait until the election is over. I may not be happy with the results but I know that God is still in control of my life!

I watched Fox Radio online last night after the debate (as well as after VP debate.) It's soooo much better. This morning I listened to Bill Bennett, also. I'm just not going to watch NBC, CBS, or ABC any longer.

And in light of the sin commment from Beth, do you really want to go into talking about sin, closemindedness, slime and slander? You're right. It does go both ways.

 

[jrstephens]

It totally pisses me off about the double standards in this election.

My mom likes to say "Obama can do no wrong and McCain can do no right in the eyes of the media."

 

[ChefBeckyD]

Government has grown a great deal in the last 8 years and especially in the last few weeks and now McCain wants it to grow more buy buying mortgages that we thought were just bought in the bail out. Obama wants the people who work to get something for their labor and for the richest to be accountable to share instead of continuing their greed. Obama wants personal responsibility too.

We help people all over the world but if we talk about helping our own people we are labeled socialists. It's a sin that there are people in our country dying or going into bankruptcy because they don't have health care. Under Obama's plan people will be able to see a doctor when they need it and it will stop some of the ER bottleneck. Hospitals will get paid for their services which will get all of us better care.

I agree that issues need to be laid out clearly and in a way everyone can understand. What I don't understand is how you otherwise intelligent people can buy into all the slime and slander. The McCain campaign is desperate and now they're throwing all the crap out there that has already been sifted through and found to be not worthy of attention. If you have to go there then, what about, for instance, McCain's involvement in the Keating Five (goes to his judgement) and the things that his running mate has in her past - her pastor, troopergate... Neither side is perfect but I can't support closemindedness and slime and slander.

If the issues were even on the table McCain would be talking them - his own campain SAID that they lose if they talk issues so they need to turn the page to scare people away from Obama. SHEESH.

That is an incorrect statement. McCain wants to take $300,000 of the $700,000 bailout and apply it to buying off peoples mortgages - and then helping them refinance those same mortgages at a lower value on their homes so they don't lose their homes. Once again, McCain's words are completely twisted, and something that is a great idea to HELP PEOPLE is blasted.




And could you show me where McCains Campaign said they lose if they talk issues? I don't remember reading that anyplace - and I read just about everything.


However, if they do lose, it's because the LIBERAL MSM twists everything that is said so that it slants towards Obama.....it's gotten so bad, that NBC finally had to acknowledge it and rename some of their "Election Anchors" as "Election Commentators."

 

[pampchefrhondab]

I really can't believe a thing that comes out of Obama's mouth. He talks about how McCain wants to raise taxes while acting like his social programs aren't going to cost the tax payers a penny. I heard on one of the news programs the other day his plans would actually add another half a trillion dollars to the budget over McCains plans.

It shows how far from the real world he is by stating he is going to drop taxes for someone making $30,000. With standard deductions and tax credits someone making this income doesn't even pay federal taxes at the end of the year. Actually they are paid to work with the earned income tax credit. How can you reduce an amount of nothing? Now if they combine it w/a spouses income then they would be paying tax.

Obama won't tell you that the tax credits you did have under the Bush Administration have been allowed to expire by the democrats. Those with children are going to be shocked when they do their taxes and no longer receive the $1,000 per child credit. This was not off income, this was straight off the tax bill. If you have 2 children and received less then a $2,000 tax refund last year, you will owe this year.

 

[janetupnorth]

I really can't believe a thing that comes out of Obama's mouth. He talks about how McCain wants to raise taxes while acting like his social programs aren't going to cost the tax payers a penny. I heard on one of the news programs the other day his plans would actually add another half a trillion dollars to the budget over McCains plans.

It shows how far from the real world he is by stating he is going to drop taxes for someone making $30,000. With standard deductions and tax credits someone making this income doesn't even pay federal taxes at the end of the year. Actually they are paid to work with the earned income tax credit. How can you reduce an amount of nothing? Now if they combine it w/a spouses income then they would be paying tax.

Obama won't tell you that the tax credits you did have under the Bush Administration have been allowed to expire by the democrats. Those with children are going to be shocked when they do their taxes and no longer receive the $1,000 per child credit. This was not off income, this was straight off the tax bill. If you have 2 children and received less then a $2,000 tax refund last year, you will owe this year.

Yikes, I really need to watch my budget "in case". I have always gotten SOME refund, but last year would have owed, if not for Pampered Chef. I don't think it will swing me enough this year. I cannot believe how much we pay in taxes and we do not make a lot.

 

[JAE]

I really can't believe a thing that comes out of Obama's mouth. He talks about how McCain wants to raise taxes while acting like his social programs aren't going to cost the tax payers a penny. I heard on one of the news programs the other day his plans would actually add another half a trillion dollars to the budget over McCains plans.

It shows how far from the real world he is by stating he is going to drop taxes for someone making $30,000. With standard deductions and tax credits someone making this income doesn't even pay federal taxes at the end of the year. Actually they are paid to work with the earned income tax credit. How can you reduce an amount of nothing? Now if they combine it w/a spouses income then they would be paying tax.

Obama won't tell you that the tax credits you did have under the Bush Administration have been allowed to expire by the democrats. Those with children are going to be shocked when they do their taxes and no longer receive the $1,000 per child credit. This was not off income, this was straight off the tax bill. If you have 2 children and received less then a $2,000 tax refund last year, you will owe this year.

Thank you for bringing this up. I keep forgetting, but when Obama says he's going to reduce taxes for 95% of working families, my blood pressure goes up. Why McCain doesn't bring that up is beyond me.

 

[esavvymom]

Link to a video. i've seen much of the information- in various forms in other places- mainly in Mainstream media such as CNN and the like...as you see in this video.

Economic Collapse- where did the Roller Coaster ride start?

All I can say is now is the time to make sure we have our financial house as much in order as we ever-so possibly can. I'm just thankful that we found Dave Ramsey earlier this year and were able to get ours on track and pay off the extra debt and stop using credit and go with cash instead. No matter who is elected, it's going to be awhile before anything starts to resemble what we once had in regards to comfort with the financial market. But I know that I certainly don't want to see the predominant group responsible for the underlying reasons for this mess having total control. That's why shared is best. No one party can run amuck with 'total power' or anything resembling it.

 

[chefsteph07]

Yikes, I really need to watch my budget "in case". I have always gotten SOME refund, but last year would have owed, if not for Pampered Chef. I don't think it will swing me enough this year. I cannot believe how much we pay in taxes and we do not make a lot.

Is this true? Where can we get info on this? So, we get no credit for children??

Fortunately, we got back more than 2k, but barely...we have always known that at the very least we will have a 2k refund...and that has really helped us out in the past! How is the refund going to work this April??

 

[janetupnorth]

Is this true? Where can we get info on this? So, we get no credit for children??

Fortunately, we got back more than 2k, but barely...we have always known that at the very least we will have a 2k refund...and that has really helped us out in the past! How is the refund going to work this April??

I'm not sure off the top of my head since I do so much, I don't keep up on tax laws and use TurboTax. I just know I'm going to be hurting if I owe and refuse to borrow for taxes so I'd rather start saving now and be blessed later if I don't owe!

 

[chefsteph07]

Well, it looks like we're all going to get screwed if this is true..so much for the dems helping out the "middle class"...maybe my husband should quit his job and we should go on welfare since that's the only way anyone's going to get any kind of "break". This is disguesting.

 

[janetupnorth]

Well, it looks like we're all going to get screwed if this is true..so much for the dems helping out the "middle class"...maybe my husband should quit his job and we should go on welfare since that's the only way anyone's going to get any kind of "break". This is disguesting.

Yeah, just think, then you'll be lower class and as an American he DESERVES Health Care and Housing and Food. <sarcasm inserted> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping my neighbor and around by us we ALL help each other with meals when someone is struggling, passing on clothing and boots and winter jackets, giving each others' kids rides, etc.But I get tired of helping those who aren't willing to help themselves.I look at it like our PC businesses - it's hard to feel sorry for someone struggling to get bookings when they are whining about how bad things are and not getting out there and doing something. I don't like to hear someone whining about not making a decent salary when I don't even see them trying to deliver pizzas to do SOMETHING. (Oops...there goes Dave talking! )

 

[chefsteph07]

I was just going to say that, welfare recipients are going to get more and we are going to get less??? We already don't qualify for anything...how's that fair?

My husband works his ass off and goes to school at night...all for a pretty meager salary, and he hasn't been allowed any overtime in I don't know how long, and now he just told me last night that his dept is making a few cuts and he does not know if he is going to be affected or not. He gets a Pell grant for school but he cut back his hours this semester and so we had to pay for his books, which was a few hundred dollars...I just dont understand. The ONLY thing we have to look forward to is our damn income tax and if that gets taken away I think we are going to be ready to give it up. Seriously.

 

[janetupnorth]

I was just going to say that, welfare recipients are going to get more and we are going to get less??? We already don't qualify for anything...how's that fair?

My husband works his ass off and goes to school at night...all for a pretty meager salary, and he hasn't been allowed any overtime in I don't know how long, and now he just told me last night that his dept is making a few cuts and he does not know if he is going to be affected or not. He gets a Pell grant for school but he cut back his hours this semester and so we had to pay for his books, which was a few hundred dollars...I just dont understand. The ONLY thing we have to look forward to is our damn income tax and if that gets taken away I think we are going to be ready to give it up. Seriously.

Steph - come join our Total Money Makeover Group...you guys need to be focused (not that you aren't) on living within your means and not incurring more debt. You can do it with what you have! I KNOW you can! I've been where you guys are while in school and don't want to go back. I think the principles will help ease your stress!

 

[chefmeg]

Link to a video. i've seen much of the information- in various forms in other places- mainly in Mainstream media such as CNN and the like...as you see in this video.

Economic Collapse- where did the Roller Coaster ride start?

All I can say is now is the time to make sure we have our financial house as much in order as we ever-so possibly can. I'm just thankful that we found Dave Ramsey earlier this year and were able to get ours on track and pay off the extra debt and stop using credit and go with cash instead. No matter who is elected, it's going to be awhile before anything starts to resemble what we once had in regards to comfort with the financial market. But I know that I certainly don't want to see the predominant group responsible for the underlying reasons for this mess having total control. That's why shared is best. No one party can run amuck with 'total power' or anything resembling it.

couldn't have said it better myself~

I had mentioned a few posts ago that I was reading "Faith of my Fathers~a Family Memoir". I finished it today and I HAVE to comment that after reading this book and hearing in his own words how he was raised with honor and dignity that enabled him to live through 5 years as a POW and feel honored to serve his country as a Senator and President, I will NEVER put this man down~his integrity is what is the best of our nation and we could all learn from that!

 

[janetupnorth]

couldn't have said it better myself~

I had mentioned a few posts ago that I was reading "Faith of my Fathers~a Family Memoir". I finished it today and I HAVE to comment that after reading this book and hearing in his own words how he was raised with honor and dignity that enabled him to live through 5 years as a POW and feel honored to serve his country as a Senator and President, I will NEVER put this man down~his integrity is what is the best of our nation and we could all learn from that!

Now you have to read Dreams from My Father so you are "fair and balanced"
The one owner of the company I work at read that and The Audacity of Hope. He said those two were "eye-opening".

 

[chefmeg]

Government has grown a great deal in the last 8 years and especially in the last few weeks and now McCain wants it to grow more buy buying mortgages that we thought were just bought in the bail out. Obama wants the people who work to get something for their labor and for the richest to be accountable to share instead of continuing their greed. Obama wants personal responsibility too.

We help people all over the world but if we talk about helping our own people we are labeled socialists. It's a sin that there are people in our country dying or going into bankruptcy because they don't have health care. Under Obama's plan people will be able to see a doctor when they need it and it will stop some of the ER bottleneck. Hospitals will get paid for their services which will get all of us better care.

I agree that issues need to be laid out clearly and in a way everyone can understand. What I don't understand is how you otherwise intelligent people can buy into all the slime and slander. The McCain campaign is desperate and now they're throwing all the crap out there that has already been sifted through and found to be not worthy of attention. If you have to go there then, what about, for instance, McCain's involvement in the Keating Five (goes to his judgement) and the things that his running mate has in her past - her pastor, troopergate... Neither side is perfect but I can't support closemindedness and slime and slander.

If the issues were even on the table McCain would be talking them - his own campain SAID that they lose if they talk issues so they need to turn the page to scare people away from Obama. SHEESH.

Beth, you know I love you, but I have to comment on this~I am unable to understand how anyone cannot see through Obamas facade. He is a liar~how well does he know people that are on the wrong side of what this country stands for? I understand that he was 8 years old when Ayers bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and the NYPD, but he WAS NOT an innocent child when he stood in this mans home and asked the people of Illinois to vote for him. How can anyone really accept that his views are not toally radical when you hear the preachings of Rev. Wright? You cannot tell me that these relationships are not important to this race~these relationships are at the heart of this man that no matter what he says to the public, he lives another life that will damage the USA beyond repair. Do you really want your sons and grandchildren to live in a socialist society? Get beyond what the media is telling you about his reform for healthcare and the economy and really look at his heart~his wife even called this country MEAN! Can this country be mean and she still manage to go to her Ivy League schools? Can this country be mean and have a black man even running for the highest office in the land?
I am serious~the issues are very important, but more important are what a man holds dear to him~and Obama does not, and never will have, the integrity of McCain.

 

[chefsteph07]

Taken from Yahoo News...Make sure to read the last line, let's see Beth, is it such a bad idea NOW??
_________________________________________________________________

John McCain's proposal to buy up bad home mortgages would use nearly half the $700 billion from the recent Wall Street bailout package to assist Americans directly, instead of indirectly by rescuing the nation's financial markets.



The Republican presidential candidate announced during Tuesday's debate that he would order the federal government to spend $300 billion in federal funds to buy the mortgages and allow financially troubled homeowners to keep their houses.

Democratic nominee Barack Obama last month sounded a similar theme, proposing that the government consider taking such a step.

 

[BethCooks4U]

Beth, you know I love you, but I have to comment on this~I am unable to understand how anyone cannot see through Obamas facade. He is a liar~how well does he know people that are on the wrong side of what this country stands for? I understand that he was 8 years old when Ayers bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and the NYPD, but he WAS NOT an innocent child when he stood in this mans home and asked the people of Illinois to vote for him. How can anyone really accept that his views are not toally radical when you hear the preachings of Rev. Wright? You cannot tell me that these relationships are not important to this race~these relationships are at the heart of this man that no matter what he says to the public, he lives another life that will damage the USA beyond repair. Do you really want your sons and grandchildren to live in a socialist society? Get beyond what the media is telling you about his reform for healthcare and the economy and really look at his heart~his wife even called this country MEAN! Can this country be mean and she still manage to go to her Ivy League schools? Can this country be mean and have a black man even running for the highest office in the land?
I am serious~the issues are very important, but more important are what a man holds dear to him~and Obama does not, and never will have, the integrity of McCain.

I beg to differ. McCain and his gang has said more than his share of lies and twisting of truth. McCain is desperate and will say anything or try anything to win. I want to hear what my next president will do for the country. I don't need to hear why he doesn't llike the other guy. McCain shows his distain by not looking at Obama and by his facial expressions - so childish. Not what I want in a president.

I am not going to comment further on this because I have already been lambasted for expressing my opinion on political issues and I have learned that it's futile to try to change anyones mind or to even ask that anyone look at the issues with open minds. What is, is.

 

[chefsteph07]

Beth, you had absolutely nothing to say about Meg's post, which I think was a valid question, about Obama's associations...you don't think this goes to a question of character? I"m sure given Obama's associations, McCain is probably disgusted that he has to share a stage with someone like him. Not childish at all...he has disdain for him because he is not an HONORABLE person.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I beg to differ. McCain and his gang has said more than his share of lies and twisting of truth. McCain is desperate and will say anything or try anything to win. I want to hear what my next president will do for the country. I don't need to hear why he doesn't llike the other guy. McCain shows his distain by not looking at Obama and by his facial expressions - so childish. Not what I want in a president.

I am not going to comment further on this because I have already been lambasted for expressing my opinion on political issues and I have learned that it's futile to try to change anyones mind or to even ask that anyone look at the issues with open minds. What is, is.

Soooo, because you are for Obama, and I am for McCain, you are open-minded and I am closed minded. You have said things like this before - making the point that you are smarter and wiser because of your position.

Really, there are MANY smart, open-minded, thinking people who have done their own research, and read all the same things you have read,plus more.... and yet who believe the direct opposite from you. Just because I draw different conclusions does not mean I am close-minded.


I'd still like to hear a response to my question raised from your previous post.

 

[jrstephens]

Cute joke! I know it will offend those that like Obama but sorry I think it is funny anyway and what these days doesn't offend some:

>
> > A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at
> the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.
> > He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'
> > St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a
> Lie-Clock.
> > Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.'
> > 'Oh,' said the man, 'whose clock is that?'
> > 'That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that
> she never told a lie.'
> > 'Incredible,' said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
> > St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have
> moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.'
>
> > 'Where's Senator Obama's clock?' asked the man.
> > 'Obama's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan. '

 

[pamperedlinda]

That is very funny Jennifer!

(Uh-oh, guess I just exposed my lurker status on this thread )

 

[janetupnorth]

That is very funny Jennifer!

(Uh-oh, guess I just exposed my lurker status on this thread )

No biggie - you have to chuckle at life no matter what side you are on!

You exposed your lurker status but not your viewpoint so you are still good.

 

[pamperedlinda]

No biggie - you have to chuckle at life no matter what side you are on!

You exposed your lurker status but not your viewpoint so you are still good.

So true! You can chuckle even harder when you see some truth in the joke (did that tell you what side I'm on?) I refuse to get involved in the debates here, but I find some of the information quite interesting.

 

[janetupnorth]

So true! You can chuckle even harder when you see some truth in the joke (did that tell you what side I'm on?) I refuse to get involved in the debates here, but I find some of the information quite interesting.

You knew Mother Teresa? Sorry...couldn't resist!

 

[jrstephens]

You knew Mother Teresa? Sorry...couldn't resist!

Nope, she knew Abe Lincoln!

 

[chefmeg]

to Beth, I don't mind that you disagree~that is one great thing about our country...the freedom to disagree and still be able to get along. What I do mind is the tone that your post had~as if any of us that are for McCain are somehow blinded and unable to see him for what he is. I don't feel that is the case for myself and most others on this thread~I do, however, feel that the majority of people, you included, that have chimed in on this thread, are not asking the right questions and not looking for the right answers from your candidate. The man is not telling the truth about the associations he has with a terrorist...that alone should take him out of the running. I don't care what his policies are for healthcare, the econmony, energy....it doesn't matter! When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas and your man is covered with them.

to Jennifer~you cracked me up with your joke! Too funny!

 

[JAE]

Here's a great article by Dennis Prager about why he isn't liberal.

Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com :: Why I Am Not a Liberal

 

[pampchefrhondab]

Is this true? Where can we get info on this? So, we get no credit for children??

Fortunately, we got back more than 2k, but barely...we have always known that at the very least we will have a 2k refund...and that has really helped us out in the past! How is the refund going to work this April??

Good news. I looked it up and it doesn't expire for 2 more years! Sorry to worry everyone. It was up for renewal last year and was not renewed, but the original bill doesn't expire until 2010!

Hopefully as it gets closer whoever is President will do something to keep it from expiring.

I'm as happy as the rest of you because I was planning on not getting a refund next year.

 

[chefsteph07]

Good news. I looked it up and it doesn't expire for 2 more years! Sorry to worry everyone. It was up for renewal last year and was not renewed, but the original bill doesn't expire until 2010!

Hopefully as it gets closer whoever is President will do something to keep it from expiring.

I'm as happy as the rest of you because I was planning on not getting a refund next year.

Where did you find info on this?

 

[janetupnorth]

Good news. I looked it up and it doesn't expire for 2 more years! Sorry to worry everyone. It was up for renewal last year and was not renewed, but the original bill doesn't expire until 2010!

Hopefully as it gets closer whoever is President will do something to keep it from expiring.

I'm as happy as the rest of you because I was planning on not getting a refund next year.

Thanks for the research Rhonda! I know others expired, but glad that is still on the table.

 

[gingertannery]

I know this is long.. I got it in an e-mail and it is excellent. We all need to step up to the plate and not be silent.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
THIS LETTER MAKES MORE SENSE THAN ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN, HEARD, OR READ, CONCERNING THE UPCOMING ELECTION...

IT'S A LETTER FROM A U.S. CITIZEN... WHO LIVES IN ILLINOIS ... AND OBVIOUSLY IS A

'SELF-THINKER'... NOT JUST A 'FOLLOWER'!!!

IF YOU ONLY READ ONE THING, REGARDING THIS ELECTION... LET THIS BE THE ONE THING!! AFTER READING IT, YOU WILL PROBABLY WANT TO FORWARD IT TO OTHER AMERICANS WHO ARE 'SELF THINKERS'!!

An impassioned letter from a 'nobody'. But he gives his telephone number at the end.

Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: FW: A letter from Illinois

Dear Friends:

My name is Joe Porter. I live in Champaign , Illinois . I'm 46 years old, a born-again Christian, a husband, a father, a small business owner, a veteran, and a homeowner. I don't consider myself to be either conservative or liberal, and I vote for the person, not Republican or Democrat. I don't believe there are 'two Americas ' but that every person in this country can be whomever and whatever they want to be if they'll just work to get there and nowhere else on earth can they find such opportunities. I believe our government should help those who are legitimately downtrodden, and should always put the interests of America first.

The purpose of this message is that I'm concerned about the future of this great nation. I'm worried that the silent majority of honest, hard-working, tax-paying people in this country have been passive for too long. Most folks I know choose not to involve themselves in politics. They go about their daily lives, paying their bills, raising their kids, and doing what they can to maintain the good life. They vote and consider doing so to be a sacred trust. They shake their heads at the political pundits and so-called 'news', thinking that what they hear is always spun by whomever is reporting it. They can't understand how elected officials can regularly violate the public trust with pork barrel spending. They don't want government handouts. They want the government to protect them, not raise their taxes for more government programs.

We are in the unique position in = this country of electing our leaders. It's a privilege to do so. I've never found a candidate in any election with whom I agreed on everything. I'll wager that most of us don't even agree with our families or spouses 100% of the time. So when I step into that voting booth, I always try to look at the big picture and cast my vote for the man or woman who is best qualified for the job. I've hired a lot of people in my lifetime, and essentially that's what an election is - a hiring process. Who has the credentials? Whom do I want working for me? Whom can I trust to do the job right?

I'm concerned that a growing number of voters in this country simply don't get it. They are caught up in a fervor they can't explain, and calling it 'change'.

'Change what?', I ask.

'Well, we're going to change America ', they say.

'In what way?', I query.

'We want someone new and fresh in the White House', they exclaim.

'So, someone who's not a politician?', I say.

'Uh, well, no, we just want a lot of stuff changed, so we're voting for Obama', they state.

'So the current system, the system of freedom and democracy that has enabled a man to grow up in this great country, get a fine education, raise incredible amounts of money and dominate the news, and win his party's nomination for the White House that system's all wrong?'

'No, no, that part of the system's okay we just need a lot of change.'

And so it goes. 'Change we can believe in.'

Quite frankly, I don't believe that vague proclamations of change hold any promise for me. In recent months, I've been asking virtually everyone I encounter how they're voting. I live in Illinois , so most folks tell me they're voting for Barack Obama. But no one can really tell me why only that he's going to change a lot of stuff 'Change, change, change.' I have yet to find one single person who can tell me distinctly and convincingly why this man is qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful nation on earth other than the fact that he claims he's going to implement a lot of change.

We've all seen the emails about Obama's genealogy, his upbringing, his Muslim background, and his church affiliations. Let's ignore this for a moment. Put it all aside. Then ask yourself, 'What qualifies this man to be my president? That he's a brilliant orator and talks about change?'

CHANGE WHAT?

Friends, I'll be forthright with you I believe the American voters who are supporting Barack Obama don't have a clue what they're doing, as evidenced by the fact that not one of them - NOT ONE of them I've spoken to can spell out his qualifications. Not even the most liberal media can explain why he should be elected. Political experience? Negligible. Foreign relations? Non-existent. Achievements? Name one. Someone who wants to unite the country? If you haven't read his wife's thesis from Princeton , look it up on the web. This is who's lining up to be our next First Lady? The only thing I can glean from Obama's constant harping about change is that we're in for a lot of new taxes.

For me, the choice is clear. I've looked carefully at the two leading applicants for the job, and I've made my choice.

Here's a question - 'Where were you five and a half years ago? Around Christmas, 2002. You've had five or six birthdays in that time. My son has grown from a sixth grade child to a high school graduate. Five and a half years is a good chunk of time. About 2,000 days. 2,000 nights of sleep. 6,000 meals, give or take.'

John McCain spent that amount of time, from 1967 to 1973, in a North Vietnamese prisoner-of-war camp.

When offered early release, he refused it. He considered this offer to be a public relations stunt by his captors, and insisted that those held longer than he should be released first. Did you get that part? He was offered his freedom, and he turned it down. A regimen of beatings and torture began.

Do you possess such strength of character? Locked in a filthy cell in a foreign country, would you turn down your own freedom in favor of your fellow man? I submit that's a quality of character that is rarely found, and for me, this singular act defines John McCain.

Unlike several presidential candidates in recent years whose military service is questionable or non-existent, you will not find anyone to denigrate the integrity and moral courage of this man. A graduate of Annapolis, during his Naval service he received the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. His own son is now serving in the Marine Corps in Iraq . Barack Obama is fond of saying 'We honor John McCain's service...BUT...', which to me is condescending and offensive - because what I hear is, 'Let's forget this man's sacrifice for his country, and his proven leadership abilities, and talk some more about change.'

I don't agree with John McCain on everything - but I am utterly convinced that he is qualified to be our next President, and I trust him to do what's right. I know in my heart that he has the best interests of our country in mind. He doesn't simply want to be President - he wants to lead America , and there's a huge difference. Factually, there is simply no comparison between the two candidates. A man of questionable background and motives who prattles on about change, can't hold a candle to a man who has devoted his life in public service to this nation, retiring from the Navy in1981 and elected to the Senate in1982.

Perhaps Obama's supporters are taking a stance between old and new. Maybe they don't care about McCain's service or his strength of character, or his unblemished qualifications to be President. Maybe 'likeability' is a higher priority for them than 'trust'. Being a prisoner of war is not what qualifies John McCain to be President of the United States of America - but his demonstrated leadership certainly DOES.

Dear friends, it is time for us to stand. It is time for thinking Americans to say, 'Enough.' It is time for people of all parties to stop following the party line. It is time for anyone who wants to keep America first, who wants the right man leading their nation, to start a dialogue with all their friends and neighbors and ask who they're voting for, and why.

There's a lot of evil in this world. That should be readily apparent to all of us by now. And when faced with that evil as we are now, I want a man who knows the cost of war on his troops and on his citizens. I want a man who puts my family's interests before any foreign country.

I want a President who's qualified to lead.

I want my country back, and I'm voting for John McCain.
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[gingertannery]

Beth,
Please understand the title of this post.. do not be offended that you got on this post and did not find like thinkers.. I hope and pray that people like you really stop and listen to all the facts. Obama is muslim.. once a muslim.. always a muslim.. And his change?? He keeps saying he'll change things.. to what??? Tell me what he'll change so I can understand why you would vote for him. Give me details please... Don't you think everyone goes in to prompote change?? Maybe he can clean up this morgage mess.. his dear party caused it in the late 90's. That's right this is Clinton's doings. It was said then that it would bite us... and it has. His party has been in charge of congress for the last 2 years.. they have tied Bush's hands and then blamed him for the problems. Maybe he can get his party in order.. or maybe contribute to the mess they have been making. In history.. we always feel we need change.. we do change to the democrats.. until they begin to break us and hit us hard in our pocketbooks.. and then we go back to Republican.. and spend years undoing the mess. Well this mess is a carry over to the Clinton years. I am all for helping those in need.. for a short period of time. I have had students who told me they will get disabilities all their life cause their mom does and told them they also will. We are breeding a new type of American that stays on welfare.. lifers!! And the working pay for it all. We are breeding lazy dependents. I vote for change.. and to change that.

 

[janetupnorth]

That was a good letter. I don't agree 100% with McCain either, but he is more qualified to lead the country!Did you know that in battleground states, Obama is outspending McCain 3 to 1 for the campaign? I know Obama has a "well-funded" campaign but wow!

 

[ChefBeckyD]

That was a good letter. I don't agree 100% with McCain either, but he is more qualified to lead the country!

Did you know that in battleground states, Obama is outspending McCain 3 to 1 for the campaign? I know Obama has a "well-funded" campaign but wow!

And did you know (probably not - because the MSM doesn't talk about it AT ALL!) that there are huge discrepencies in Obama's fundraising machine, and it is being investigated?
And why hasn't the MSM questioned Michelle's Thesis? Have you read it? Wow. Scary.


Thank you for that letter - it was good. I don't agree 100% with McCain either (he isn't who I voted for in the primaries) but I agree that he is much more qualified to lead our country. I believe that at the end of the day, integrity, and character are of utmost importance. More important than anything else.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

Michelle Obama thesis was on racial divide - Jeffrey Ressner - Politico.com

Michelle's thesis

 

[janetupnorth]

Michelle Obama thesis was on racial divide - Jeffrey Ressner - Politico.com

Michelle's thesis

I've read some of it...some interesting views...

 

[gingertannery]

My take is they seem like they are so angry with america and how they are treated. I have been turned down for jobs because of my color.. and did not get well needed scholarships because of my color (white) even though I was very well qualified for both. We are all dealing with things. I should be angry.. but realize that life has knocks and bumps. But they both (obamas) seem so angry. That religious leader is very angry too. I wish I could read her whole thesis. They both "NEED TO BUILD A BRIGDE.. AND GET OVER IT!!" lol The one who should be angriest is McCain. I can't even emagine living in those conditions for even a day in captivity.. And he did it for years and now he gets so little respect for what he gave for our country.. it just blows me away. These times are so evil. And if obama gets elected.... we are in for the ride of our lives...evil will be in charge. The angry man and his angry wife!! Wow what a future.. and everyone who votes for him will get cange.. I'm not sure they are ready for it.

 

[pampchefrhondab]

Where did you find info on this?

The Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004

 

[chefsteph07]

Thanks for this, so it looks like after 2 yrs it's going to go from 1k per child to 500.00? Is that what you are reading as well?

 

[Hathery]

Beth,
Please understand the title of this post.. do not be offended that you got on this post and did not find like thinkers.. I hope and pray that people like you really stop and listen to all the facts. Obama is muslim.. once a muslim.. always a muslim.. And his change?? He keeps saying he'll change things.. to what??? Tell me what he'll change so I can understand why you would vote for him. Give me details please... Don't you think everyone goes in to prompote change?? Maybe he can clean up this morgage mess.. his dear party caused it in the late 90's. That's right this is Clinton's doings. It was said then that it would bite us... and it has. His party has been in charge of congress for the last 2 years.. they have tied Bush's hands and then blamed him for the problems. Maybe he can get his party in order.. or maybe contribute to the mess they have been making. In history.. we always feel we need change.. we do change to the democrats.. until they begin to break us and hit us hard in our pocketbooks.. and then we go back to Republican.. and spend years undoing the mess. Well this mess is a carry over to the Clinton years. I am all for helping those in need.. for a short period of time. I have had students who told me they will get disabilities all their life cause their mom does and told them they also will. We are breeding a new type of American that stays on welfare.. lifers!! And the working pay for it all. We are breeding lazy dependents. I vote for change.. and to change that.

Please explain this.

 

[Hathery]

Obama doesn't understand why we invaded Iraq. He just said that during the debate. Unbelievable.

Why DID we invade Iraq?

 

[janetupnorth]

Please explain this.

To a Muslim, it isn't something you can join or leave. They believe you are a Muslim by birthright and once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Obama's father was a Muslim and Obama is listed as a Muslim on his school papers. Therefore, they believe that he IS a Muslim, regardless of what he claims to believe.

 

[pampchefrhondab]

Thanks for this, so it looks like after 2 yrs it's going to go from 1k per child to 500.00? Is that what you are reading as well?

Yes, that's what I read as well. We can hope it is renewed before then.

 

[Kitchen Diva]

Why DID we invade Iraq?

Janet... I want you to know that I'm biting my tongue...:grumpy: