There's Cookware Bags on Ebay!!!

[janetupnorth]

Oh, I see what you're saying! Or, I guess they would have to pursue something against ebay for allowing copyright infringement or something like that.

That's where VERO comes in...using the account you saw, they report to E-bay and E-bay pulls the listing and deals with the offender at various levels.

PC wouldn't go against E-bay because each person is responsible for the content of their listings. E-bay goes against the seller on PC's behalf.

 

[AJPratt]

It sounds too complicated for me! But I think its cooL!

 

[Countrykitchenmichelle]

I've been a member here for over a year, I just don't chime in with all my input and opinions. I'm not trying to accumulate points for stars.....

I just honestly believe if we focused half as much energy to our own personal goals and sales instead of worrying what people on EBAY are doing, then we would reap far more benefits.
PC is well aware of the potential violations on EBAY and I believe it's their duty to monitor that activity and discipline for it. I'm sure they have competent employees that can "search for violators" just as well as we could do.

I'm not saying that what they are doing is right, just tired of hearing all the PC police stuff here.
We should be making our own business more profitable. How many calls could you have made or sales earned in the time it took to page through EBAY, email the sellers and what not..... that's all I'm saying.

 

[etteluap70PC]

OK, gotta chime in.... There have been threads on this site that were not my cup of tea.... I do not go back and read those threads, simple as that...

I couldn't care less how other consultants spend their time as long as they are not giving PC and the rest of us a bad name.

If goofing arround here makes you feel better... then goof away....

I know there are days I need to be here for my sanity and sometimes it's the only entertainment I get!

just my .02$

 

[AJPratt]

I've been a member here for over a year, I just don't chime in with all my input and opinions. I'm not trying to accumulate points for stars...
I'm not saying that what they are doing is right, just tired of hearing all the PC police stuff here.
We should be making our own business more profitable. How many calls could you have made or sales earned in the time it took to page through EBAY, email the sellers and what not...

OK, I am trying to be polite here, but I don't appreciate the digs (calling us "PC Police" more than once and the comment about the stars). I am always open to different points of view (that's how we learn), but when they are offered in a constructive, open manner. You can disagree with anyone on this board, even me, but please don't be insulting. Even if we are ignorant and wastng our time.

We are discussing an issue we face everyday. Perhaps you will feel differently about the whole ebay issue if/when someone expresses their extreme displeasure about your company at a show in front of everyone because of a product they bought off of ebay from a consultant. Or, they say at a show "I'll just get that off of ebay, its so much cheaper." I hope you don't experience it, because its pretty humiliating. I am sorry, but like etteluap70PC, I feel that people who sell on ebay are giving the company a bad name and I'm not going to let anyone do that if I can help it when possible.

And, for the record, I have to say that, for me, the number of posts I have as a symbol of the opinions and input I have provided other consultants as well as all of the help I have received when asking for help. I didn't post to earn anything except a better understanding of what this business is or help someone else out. I can't speak for everyone, and really, its none of my business why they post, I'm just glad they have. And if that star makes them feel better, where's the harm?

Again, my time is also mine to do with what I want. While I would never tell someone how to run his or her business, I have to wonder: How much better would your business be if you weren't giving us a hard time about what we we're discussing?

And, you don't have to read the threads that don't appeal to you. If you are not interested in offering something constructive to the conversation, why post? Greg is the site admin... we trust that if we are out of line, he will let us know.

 

[pamperedlinda]

Anne.....you always say things so much more tactfully than I would! (Guess that's why I sometimes piss people off... ) Anyhow, she may not have the extra time to take away from her business by posting (oh and earning stars....), but it does appear that she has plenty of time to read threads that she doesn't like, that irritate her, and that she disagrees with......

And, I have to say that my business has GROWN so much since I found this site. I was really floundering (is that even a word?) last spring and wondering if I should be doing this. I was internet surfing for a recipe and came across this site. I have learned so much! I have gotten so many ideas! I have found alot of support! My business has really grown! I feel like I have contributed and helped others! I have even made a lot of new friends! (that I cannot wait to actually meet in the flesh at conference!) Even though I religiuosly attend ALL of my Cluster Meetings (have never ever missed) I get alot more ideas here that I do from my Director and other consultants on our team. I even pass on some of these ideas to them.

I WOULD NOT be where I am today without this site and all of our fun! And yes, I'm proud of my Stripper Star!

 

[quiverfull7]

Well stated Anne

 

[Chef Kearns]

Hopefully you didn't scare her away Anne! You'll notice I am staying mum on the whole Ebay thing. It got my feathers ruffled one too many times before.

 

[gilliandanielle]

I need to speak up and agree with Anne- my business is flourishing and my calls are made. Even if they weren't it is none of your business what I do with my free time. Yes I post a lot, but it is in no way to "accumulate points for stars" and I feel like everyone here is my friend. I can only hope that in the combined 7600 posts that Anne and I have made that we have helped almost every person on the board. In return I have gotten questions answered, files, and general advise from most members. I am here for the same reasons you are, and should not be judged for the amount of time I spend here whether I am helping other consultants or just talking amongst friends.

I have also been stopped in the middle of a show and asked why they just can't get it on eBay. I kept my cool but was mortified! In this day and age it is natural to think of eBay, but it is job security as a consultant to properly inform my customers.

If I was working in a jewelery store and saw another employee selling 'not yet available' jewelery in the alley after work to MY customers/potential customers illegally you bet your buns the right person is going to hear about it!

 

[chefbritt]

I have to agree. Gillian and Anne are two of the most helpful people I have found on this board. Their input, along with that of the many other wonderful cheffers here, has helped my business tremendously. I am thankful that they come on here and post everyday, because it is to the benefit of the rest of us. How they spend their time is none of our business, and clearly, their businesses are not suffering from it. You don't have to agree with anything that is written on here, but please don't insult others for expressing their opinions.

Anyways, thanks ladies, and keep up the great work!

 

[AJPratt]

Hopefully you didn't scare her away Anne! You'll notice I am staying mum on the whole Ebay thing. It got my feathers ruffled one too many times before.

ChefKearns: I certainly wouldn't want to scare her away. Different opinions is what makes this such a great place. But I just can't allow name calling. And I know what you mean about ruffled feathers.

Gillian: You make an make an EXCELLENT point about ebay and why we should ALL have a vested interest that I didn't think of: job security! Ebay sellers selling current PC items threaten our job security...

Linda: That wasn't my first draft! Hey, I have given as much grief as I have gotten. More than once I have said something and caught heck for it.

I am fortunate to have an amazing director. She is probably my best friend.
But, there have been plenty of times that she wasn't available and I got good, reliable information here. The people on this site have been here for me to laugh, cry and even just listen when I wanted to yell.

 

[chefann]

I have to agree. Gillian and Anne are two of the most helpful people I have found on this board. Their input, along with that of the many other wonderful cheffers here, has helped my business tremendously. I am thankful that they come on here and post everyday, because it is to the benefit of the rest of us. How they spend their time is none of our business, and clearly, their businesses are not suffering from it. You don't have to agree with anything that is written on here, but please don't insult others for expressing their opinions.

Anyways, thanks ladies, and keep up the great work!

I heartily concur!

 

[pamperedtara]

There is another sale for cookware bags & Show-To-Go items. Boldly boasts a user name of pctoyourdoor!!!

 

[AJPratt]

Report 'em! Feel free to use my sig as the link!

 

[janetupnorth]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290078322128

I've been watching this one for DAYS - kind of sickening how much this person is making.

(And on the "Bidder 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 thing you'll see - new E-bay rules...)

 

[gilliandanielle]

Dou you have any info from her about whether or not she is a consultant??

 

[ChefJesssica]

Its very easy. On an ebay listing, go down to report this to ebay and ebay tells pampered chef and they cancel your listing. They just cancelled my postcards listing. It happens very quickly!

 

[gilliandanielle]

How does anyone know who is a consultant though...

 

[jenniferknapp]

Yeah...that is what I was thinking. Although, if they are brand new products, catalogs or such....they have toi be a consultant!

 

[ChefJesssica]

How does anyone know who is a consultant though...

They cancel the listing if its from a consultant or not. I think you have to trick the people to find out there name and report it to Pampered Chef.

 

[janetupnorth]

Yes, I think they have to have some proof...I sent a note to PC on E-bay 2 days ago - no response...they either didn't get it or didn't do anything.

 

[ChefJesssica]

Yes, I think they have to have some proof...I sent a note to PC on E-bay 2 days ago - no response...they either didn't get it or didn't do anything.

Ebay won't let you (the reporter) know what actions they took. The offender will get an email just like this:

The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. We have notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.

YOU HAVE TO CONTACT EBAY FIRS, WHO IN TURN CONTACTS PC.



The rights owner, The Pampered Chef, notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of
this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law.

 

[AJPratt]

How do you contact ebay?

 

[gilliandanielle]

I contacted PC directly and got a reply a few days later. It was from a HO employee and didn't say what actions had been taken, but that they did something and wanted her ebay seller ID to monitor her in the future.

 

[janetupnorth]

There aren't categories for "US" to properly report the listing to E-bay. If you look at the categories you can see that...if you pick an inappropriate one there isn't grounds for E-bay necessarily to end it and E-bay does NOT tell PC if you report it.

The best thing to do is to contact PC and have them use their VERO account to ask for the listing to be ended. I do this for my place of business quite often. If someone else thinks it violates our policies E-bay will not report it to us, we have to find it on our own or by our customers.

 

[AJPratt]

Janet: Well thank you for the info!

 

[PamperChefCarol]

Was there a different address for reporting ebay?

I sent her an email saying: "Thanks for taking away business from local PC Consultants."

Send all this junk on to
[email protected]

He was in touch with me about another ebay PC person.

 

[jenniferknapp]

Send all this junk on to
[email protected]

He was in touch with me about another ebay PC person.

I sent some info to him yesterday, and the auctions were off this morning!! Thanks for the contact info, and thanks Richard!!

 

[PamperChefCarol]

I sent some info to him yesterday, and the auctions were off this morning!! Thanks for the contact info, and thanks Richard!!

It's nice to have a name to send it directly to, as opposed to a department.

 

[gilliandanielle]

That is who I "talked" to as well. This was the latest e-mail from him:

Dear Gillian, Thank you for contacting The Pampered Chef. Can you please provide us with the eBay seller name that she is using? We would like to able to monitor any future eBay activity to be sure more Pampered Chef products are not being listed.

Please respond directly to me at [email protected]. Thanks.

Richard Laiche
Consultant Career Solution Specialist
The Pampered Chef, Ltd.
www.pamperedchef.com

 

[janetupnorth]

Did you guys warn him you shared his e-mail with other consultants a.k.a "PC E-bay Police" or PEP for short?

 

[gilliandanielle]

I didn't because this was a few days ago, but I am sure it is okay...

 

[jenniferknapp]

I haven't heard a response back from him, but I did give him the eBay user ID in the first email, so he may not have if I didn't miss any info that he needed.

 

[gilliandanielle]

I gave it to him in the first e-mail too, but he must have over looked it...

 

[AJPratt]

How cool is that! Gillian has penetrated the inner sanctum!