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esavvymom said:The increased shipping on other orders would factor in as a tax deduction for too. Replacement parts would typically be passed to the customer, just like shipping on an order.
For now, the only thing I can think of to work within this system as it exists right now.....1). As always, do not express your frustration to customers about this. Calling attention to your feelings about the prices, etc, will just make THEM mad. Most people have not ordered replacement parts or even know they are an option, so wouldnt have a clue the prices. "What they dont know....." right?
(2). Customers will continue to want or need parts whether you say it or not! You can only let them know their option......buy the replacement part for this price (include tax & shipping) or buy a new one for this price and get a new warranty, etc. Just like with anything, let them decide. By not telling them about their option, you decide for them. ( where have we heard that before? )
And the last thing(3), you could let customers know that you place a replacement parts order only once or twice a month (depending on how many r.p. orders you get), to save shipping costs. Then add just $1-2 shipping to each persons order to divide up the cost of one shipment. I would offer this to customers who lived near me.....BUT truthfully, even that isnt the cheaper route. I often tell my customers who want to meet to get a product that with the cost of gas, it is usually cheaper for them to pay the extra $2 shipping or whatever it is, when gasoline way would cost us $5!
I dont think we have heard the last of this issue, but for now, having a plan for customer service is important.....one that doesnt air your dirty laundry. Remember, your attitude towards Pc with customers is huge. It can make or break business.
kreaser said:if you do a return adjustment or exchange from a show within the first 30 days, they email you a label to print. I just had to do this twice in the past 3 weeks. I printed it out on regular paper from my computer and taped it onto the box of the product and just put it in the regular mail. That is my understanding of how they are doing this now. It wasn't that bad doing it that way but I did have to go out and buy some strapping tape for the box. I didn't pay for the return though, nor did my customer. My understanding is that if the customer calls for the adjustment they will do the same for them...email them the label.
wadesgirl said:I did a little look back - in 5 years in business I placed:
2007 - 0
2008 - 10
2009 - 7
2010 - 18
2011 - 4
2012 - 0 so far
For me, only one out of 5 years could I have combined any orders since most years I didn't even get more than one order a month. I plan on sending these orders to HO and letting them know.
trps said:If you direct your customers to call PC they go into the lead system I believe as I have had several "leads" that had just called PC about getting replacements so my lead is lost to a customer getting a replacement.
ChefBeckyD said:While I would never bash PC in front of customers, or project a bad image for PC - I will not be offering replacement parts as a service any more. I have HUNDREDS of customers who already know the old replacement part policy, and they will know immediately that the prices to get these have quadrupled overnight.
My biggest concern though is that customers will be driven more to call HO for their replacement parts which will then enter them into the lead system, and I will be getting even more calls then ever for replacement parts. That will NOT be a good thing, since most HO leads looking for something like that are looking for a better deal than they can get just ordering direct in the first place. I'm sorry, but I am having a hard time finding the positive in this at all.
ShellBeach said:You're right, there isn't a positive just now. I think it will all be OK if these replacements can be ordered on shows.
As pointed out above, there is already a way to keep the host specials from getting included in commissionable sales, so apparently it can be done with guest orders & the replacement parts.
Curlyone said:I agree with you. All the take a-ways makes it difficult to provide effective customer service. And no Gift Certificates:grumpy: . . . I hope they come up with a replacement service!
BethCooks4U said:Please don't refuse to take calls from your customers about replacements. Tell them what it will cost and let them decide. If they think it's more than they want to spend offer to sell them the product. It they are upset about the cost give them HO's phone number to place their complaint. But please don't tell them to contact HO to get the part. Let's keep the lead system for real leads!
ChefBeckyD said:IMPORTANT! ChefRuthie called Home Office to find out what would happen if someone called home office looking for a replacement part, and she was told that not now, nor ever, have replacement part calls been bumped into the lead system. If someone CALLS home office and asks for a replacement part, the part is ordered for them over the phone, and assigned to a dummy "hospitality consultant number."
When we get a Lead looking for a replacement part, it's because they have bypassed contacting home office, and went right to "looking for a local consultant." SO - if we give people the Home Office # and tell them to talk to a customer service rep about ordering a replacement part, then we aren't affecting the Lead System.
PampChefDeb said:I have a similar story to many I've read here tonight. My customer started out as a possible recruit. Placed an order at her daughter's show and also asked for a replacement part for the food chopper. However, when she found out that she was being charged TWO shipping charges she CANCELLED HER ENTIRE ORDER. Said she wanted to send a message to the company, nothing personal.
I called HO furious! Asked to speak to a supervisor but did not get to. Told customer service the story and she said she'd pass it on. I strongly suggested to her that she pass on the suggestion that they put the rep parts orders together with show orders. Don't know if it will go anywhere but I hope so.
BethCooks4U said:Please don't refuse to take calls from your customers about replacements. Tell them what it will cost and let them decide. If they think it's more than they want to spend offer to sell them the product. It they are upset about the cost give them HO's phone number to place their complaint. But please don't tell them to contact HO to get the part. Let's keep the lead system for real leads!
trps said:Beth, not sure if you are just saying the same thing as me or you quoted me thinking I was not taking care of the customers. I was not saying I don't take care of them I was saying I do that's why my lead for commission is lost on a replacement part order that I do not make commission on from someone that called Pampered Chef and asked for the replacement through them already.
sandilou said:I just got the same reply. I get the feeling they are not going to change this and are hoping we will accept it in time. I still think the best solution would be to be able to add it to a show order. Win-win. With all that can be done with technology, I am not convinced that it couldn't be done. I know they don't want to pay us commission on those items. Even if they did pay me the 36 cents on a $1.50 prep bowl lid, that is cheaper than what they were paying for shipping before the change, and we would be making a little money for our 'handling' of the issue.
Sandi
jjaastef said:My guess is that replacement parts are in a different area then reg. products. (Maybe even a different building?) To include replacement parts on show orders, it may be an issue of having products in two different locations with no clear path to include both in one box.
jjaastef said:My guess is that replacement parts are in a different area then reg. products. (Maybe even a different building?) To include replacement parts on show orders, it may be an issue of having products in two different locations with no clear path to include both in one box.
Tracy99 said:This is a good theory but I thought we would be able to combine non-commission orders with the new web (yeah yeah will believe it when I see it) but if that is true, then supply orders and personal orders could be placed with replacement parts and if this is the issue, it would have to be solved then anyway.
crissy11 said:why even spend "millions" on new web stuff now? Why spend money on all these bags, wahoo recruiting things, etc... I know it is to reward us and we don't have to have the company be soo generous but dang.. another bag in the closet or given away but then irate customers because of increasing costs of products and shipping.. save the money on the other things to keep prices from going up...
cookingwithlove said:Send a message to HO, [email protected]. They will listen to us if enough of us voice our concerns:
Dear Home Office,
With all the new shipping charges for different items, please consider allowing us to put replacement parts on a show order. Frequently, a guest asks for a replacement part at a show, and it was so nice to just put the order through without additional shipping charges, especially when they are already paying $4.75 for their show order. It was great customer service to provide that extra piece they needed (usually something lightweight and under $8) as a pure “service”. This could be done as a “non-commission” part number, as we do with the monthly host specials. I’m not trying to up my commission, just serve our customers.
For Consultants, I completely see that we can work our orders to be placed at the same time as catalogs and other supplies, but for our customers, this extra service will let them see how much we value their repeat business and loyalty.
Thank you for your consideration.
esavvymom said:And if you are one who has already had a customer get upset or cancel orders because of it, as I have read a few of you have had happen already, include that in your email. If they know they are actually losing customers over this, they may consider a new way. Be it let us add them to shows (the preferred method), or remove the shipping altogether or wait until we can combine with our supply orders.
Give them the specifics of customer reaction.
BethCooks4U said:I have sent my opinion on this to HO too (got the exact same response) and I really hope they end up letting us add it to shows as an option. I don't send in many non-commission orders (at most every other month) so adding replacement parts wouldn't be an option if I wanted to give timely CS even if it was someone who lived near me.
What I will do in the meantime when someone asks about replacements at a show is to give them the total cost to get it to them and then say "or we can add the whole product to this order for $x". If they ask why so much for the part I'll say that the part is $x and then there's shipping direct to you but I will not start with that.
If someone calls or emails for a replacement I'll give them the part cost and say "of course there's shipping too so the total is $x".
When we buy replacement parts of other items online we have to pay shipping so many people will just weigh that in. I know I have bought $2 items and paid $5 for shipping and before I pay I consider if I would pay $7 for that item in a store. Often things we buy will have a paper inside with cost of replacement parts and there is always a shipping cost as well. So while we have been spoiled by our previous policy it is not unreasonable for HO to pass that expense onto the customer.
If they balk at the cost we certainly should empathize with them. "I know! I would weigh whether it's better to get this part or just get a new xxx." And I wouldn't say it to them necessarily but I don't think that if they bought that kitchen tool at William Sonoma they would have the option of getting a piece of it replaced...
ChefBeckyD said:No, they wouldn't. But isn't that what has set us apart from retailers? The fact that we provide added value and service? I guess that's not so much true anymore.
ShellBeach said:Well, after sitting with it a few days, I've realized they deliberately didn't communicate this. They didn't want to be inundated with relacement parts orders at the lower shipping cost.
1. Why are shipping charges for replacement parts so high?
2. Can I request a replacement part without paying for shipping?
3. Is there a way to avoid paying for shipping for replacement parts?
4. Have there been any recent changes to the cost of replacement parts?
5. Is there a way to lower the shipping cost for replacement parts?